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Subject: Re: Lap Times
From: "Mike" <mikeellison3|x|(at)|x|yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lap Times
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:32:19 GMT
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In <bud104$q1v$1(at)ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, "Dan Manning" <DM(at)ourworld.net> writes:
>Tonight I was poking my nose around the Internet and found some pretty
>interesting date. Lap times of many of the most popular exotics, tested on
>the famous Nuerburgring racing circuit. I own a 99 C5 and personally thought
>it was faster than half the cars that beat it, but than again I haven`t
>driven any other exotic so I guess my opinion doesn`t hold much weight.
>Anyway, Just thought the group might be interested so I decided to share.
>Enjoy.
>
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>COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK
>
> (Data from german car magazine Sport Auto, which is affliated to
>german Auto, Motor und Sport)
>
> Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement,
>
>
>
> Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):
>
> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.
>
> Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.
>
> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.
>
> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.
>
> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.
>
> Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.
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> Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.
>
> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.
>
> Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.
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> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.
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> Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.
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> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec.
>
> Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.
>
> Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.
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> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 8 min. 40 sec.
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> Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.
>
> Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.
>
> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.
>
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All of these times fall within a 10 % range. I would
expect to see greater differences across the Porsche
marque, particularly on that circuit--as I last saw it
45 years ago. My first impression is that these times
are more characteristic of driver than of car. I`d venture
that the times represent less than three days work.
Give that driver a full morning or afternoon with each
car and spread the trials over a couple of weeks and
I`d bet you see some major differences in total times
and in rankings.
There`s some adage about statistics.......and statisticians.
Oh yeah one more thing--which 6-speed? `89 w/L-98 ?
{{{;-[O
Regards, "Mike"
-- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com --
From: Bob I <BobI(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lap Times
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:17:43 -0600
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Given that a stock 2004 Z06 was driven to a lap time of 7:56 during
suspension testing, I see no reason that someone could not take longer
driving a different one. So, I`m not sure what you are trying to point
out? It`s only value is to be aware of it when some troll attempts to
use it to "prove" some silly claim.
Dan Manning wrote:
> Tonight I was poking my nose around the Internet and found some pretty
> interesting date. Lap times of many of the most popular exotics, tested on
> the famous Nuerburgring racing circuit. I own a 99 C5 and personally thought
> it was faster than half the cars that beat it, but than again I haven`t
> driven any other exotic so I guess my opinion doesn`t hold much weight.
> Anyway, Just thought the group might be interested so I decided to share.
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
>
>
> COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK
>
> (Data from german car magazine Sport Auto, which is affliated to
> german Auto, Motor und Sport)
>
> Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement,
>
>
>
> Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):
>
> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.
>
> Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.
>
> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.
>
> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.
>
> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.
>
> Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.
>
> Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.
>
> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.
>
> Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.
>
> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.
>
> Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.
>
> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec.
>
> Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.
>
> Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.
>
> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 8 min. 40 sec.
>
> Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.
>
> Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.
>
> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs (length 2,6 km):
>
> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 1 min. 14,9 sec.
>
> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 1 min. 15,1 sec.
>
> Porsche 996 C2 --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
>
> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
>
> Ferrari 550 --- 1 min. 16,1 sec.
>
> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 1 min. 16,4 sec.
>
> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 17,2 sec.
>
> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 1 min. 18,2 sec.
>
> Porsche Boxster S --- 1 min. 18,3 sec.
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> Porsche 993 C2 --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
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> Honda NSX --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
>
> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
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> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 1 min. 18,5 sec.
>
> Honda S 2000 --- 1 min. 18,9 sec.
>
> Porsche Boxster --- 1 min. 19,3 sec.
>
> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 1 min. 20,8 sec.
>
>
From: "Ten Hut PFC Moo" <armsarms(at)yourzistencestink.poop>
Subject: Re: Lap Times
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:59:13 -0600
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ya right a corvette is faster than everyone of them cars listed. a boxster
beating a vette around a track? pshh ya right, maybe if the corvette was
limited to 6th gear only....
"Dan Manning" <DM(at)ourworld.net> wrote in message
news:bud104$q1v$1(at)ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> Tonight I was poking my nose around the Internet and found some pretty
> interesting date. Lap times of many of the most popular exotics, tested on
> the famous Nuerburgring racing circuit. I own a 99 C5 and personally
thought
> it was faster than half the cars that beat it, but than again I haven`t
> driven any other exotic so I guess my opinion doesn`t hold much weight.
> Anyway, Just thought the group might be interested so I decided to share.
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
>
>
> COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK
>
> (Data from german car magazine Sport Auto, which is affliated to
> german Auto, Motor und Sport)
>
> Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement,
>
>
>
> Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):
>
> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.
>
> Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.
>
> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.
>
> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.
>
> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.
>
> Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.
>
> Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.
>
> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.
>
> Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.
>
> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.
>
> Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.
>
> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec.
>
> Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.
>
> Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.
>
> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 8 min. 40 sec.
>
> Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.
>
> Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.
>
> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs (length 2,6 km):
>
> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 1 min. 14,9 sec.
>
> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 1 min. 15,1 sec.
>
> Porsche 996 C2 --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
>
> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.
>
> Ferrari 550 --- 1 min. 16,1 sec.
>
> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 1 min. 16,4 sec.
>
> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 17,2 sec.
>
> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 1 min. 18,2 sec.
>
> Porsche Boxster S --- 1 min. 18,3 sec.
>
> Porsche 993 C2 --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
>
> Honda NSX --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
>
> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.
>
> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 1 min. 18,5 sec.
>
> Honda S 2000 --- 1 min. 18,9 sec.
>
> Porsche Boxster --- 1 min. 19,3 sec.
>
> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 1 min. 20,8 sec.
>
>
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