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Re: Lap Times

From: "Mike" <mikeellison3|x|(at)|x|yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: Lap Times

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:32:19 GMT

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In <bud104$q1v$1(at)ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, "Dan Manning" <DM(at)ourworld.net> writes:

>Tonight I was poking my nose around the Internet and found some pretty

>interesting date. Lap times of many of the most popular exotics, tested on

>the famous Nuerburgring racing circuit. I own a 99 C5 and personally thought

>it was faster than half the cars that beat it, but than again I haven`t

>driven any other exotic so I guess my opinion doesn`t hold much weight.

>Anyway, Just thought the group might be interested so I decided to share.

>Enjoy.

>

>

>

>

>

>COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK

>

> (Data from german car magazine Sport Auto, which is affliated to

>german Auto, Motor und Sport)

>

> Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement,

>

>

>

> Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):

>

> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.

>

> Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.

>

> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.

>

> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.

>

> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.

>

> Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.

>

> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.

>

> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.

>

> Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.

>

> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec.

>

> Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.

>

> Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.

>

> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 8 min. 40 sec.

>

> Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.

>

> Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.

>

> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.

>

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All of these times fall within a 10 % range. I would

expect to see greater differences across the Porsche

marque, particularly on that circuit--as I last saw it

45 years ago. My first impression is that these times

are more characteristic of driver than of car. I`d venture

that the times represent less than three days work.



Give that driver a full morning or afternoon with each

car and spread the trials over a couple of weeks and

I`d bet you see some major differences in total times

and in rankings.



There`s some adage about statistics.......and statisticians.



Oh yeah one more thing--which 6-speed? `89 w/L-98 ?

{{{;-[O



Regards, "Mike"

-- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com --






From: Bob I <BobI(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: Lap Times

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:17:43 -0600

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Given that a stock 2004 Z06 was driven to a lap time of 7:56 during

suspension testing, I see no reason that someone could not take longer

driving a different one. So, I`m not sure what you are trying to point

out? It`s only value is to be aware of it when some troll attempts to

use it to "prove" some silly claim.



Dan Manning wrote:



> Tonight I was poking my nose around the Internet and found some pretty

> interesting date. Lap times of many of the most popular exotics, tested on

> the famous Nuerburgring racing circuit. I own a 99 C5 and personally thought

> it was faster than half the cars that beat it, but than again I haven`t

> driven any other exotic so I guess my opinion doesn`t hold much weight.

> Anyway, Just thought the group might be interested so I decided to share.

> Enjoy.

>

>

>

>

>

> COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK

>

> (Data from german car magazine Sport Auto, which is affliated to

> german Auto, Motor und Sport)

>

> Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement,

>

>

>

> Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):

>

> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.

>

> Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.

>

> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.

>

> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.

>

> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.

>

> Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.

>

> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.

>

> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.

>

> Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.

>

> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec.

>

> Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.

>

> Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.

>

> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 8 min. 40 sec.

>

> Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.

>

> Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.

>

> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.

>

>

>

>

>

> Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs (length 2,6 km):

>

> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 1 min. 14,9 sec.

>

> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 1 min. 15,1 sec.

>

> Porsche 996 C2 --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.

>

> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.

>

> Ferrari 550 --- 1 min. 16,1 sec.

>

> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 1 min. 16,4 sec.

>

> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 17,2 sec.

>

> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 1 min. 18,2 sec.

>

> Porsche Boxster S --- 1 min. 18,3 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 C2 --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.

>

> Honda NSX --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.

>

> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.

>

> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 1 min. 18,5 sec.

>

> Honda S 2000 --- 1 min. 18,9 sec.

>

> Porsche Boxster --- 1 min. 19,3 sec.

>

> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 1 min. 20,8 sec.

>

>








From: "Ten Hut PFC Moo" <armsarms(at)yourzistencestink.poop>

Subject: Re: Lap Times

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:59:13 -0600

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ya right a corvette is faster than everyone of them cars listed. a boxster

beating a vette around a track? pshh ya right, maybe if the corvette was

limited to 6th gear only....





"Dan Manning" <DM(at)ourworld.net> wrote in message

news:bud104$q1v$1(at)ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...

> Tonight I was poking my nose around the Internet and found some pretty

> interesting date. Lap times of many of the most popular exotics, tested on

> the famous Nuerburgring racing circuit. I own a 99 C5 and personally

thought

> it was faster than half the cars that beat it, but than again I haven`t

> driven any other exotic so I guess my opinion doesn`t hold much weight.

> Anyway, Just thought the group might be interested so I decided to share.

> Enjoy.

>

>

>

>

>

> COMPARISON OF DIFFERENT SPORTSCARS ON THE RACE TRACK

>

> (Data from german car magazine Sport Auto, which is affliated to

> german Auto, Motor und Sport)

>

> Cars were driven by the same driver, dry pavement,

>

>

>

> Nuerburgring Nordschleife (length 20,6 km):

>

> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 8 min. 03 sec.

>

> Ferrari 550 --- 8 min. 07 sec.

>

> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 8 min. 09 sec.

>

> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 8 min. 09 sec.

>

> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 8 min. 10 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version) --- 8 min. 12 sec.

>

> Porsche 996 C2 --- 8 min. 17 sec.

>

> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 22 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 C2 --- 8 min. 28 sec.

>

> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 8 min. 28 sec.

>

> Porsche Boxster S --- 8 min. 32 sec.

>

> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 8 min. 35 sec.

>

> Honda NSX --- 8 min. 38 sec.

>

> Honda S 2000 --- 8 min. 39 sec.

>

> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 8 min. 40 sec.

>

> Audi S4 (265 HP) --- 8 min. 42 sec.

>

> Jaguar XKR Coupe --- 8 min. 49 sec.

>

> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 8 min. 52 sec.

>

>

>

>

>

> Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs (length 2,6 km):

>

> Porsche 996 GT3 --- 1 min. 14,9 sec.

>

> Ferrari 360 Modena --- 1 min. 15,1 sec.

>

> Porsche 996 C2 --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.

>

> Chrysler Viper GTS --- 1 min. 15,9 sec.

>

> Ferrari 550 --- 1 min. 16,1 sec.

>

> Lamborghini Diablo SV --- 1 min. 16,4 sec.

>

> BMW M Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 17,2 sec.

>

> Chevrolet Corvette (6-speed) --- 1 min. 18,2 sec.

>

> Porsche Boxster S --- 1 min. 18,3 sec.

>

> Porsche 993 C2 --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.

>

> Honda NSX --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.

>

> BMW M3 Coupe (321 HP) --- 1 min. 18,4 sec.

>

> BMW M5 (400 HP) --- 1 min. 18,5 sec.

>

> Honda S 2000 --- 1 min. 18,9 sec.

>

> Porsche Boxster --- 1 min. 19,3 sec.

>

> Mercedes CLK 430 --- 1 min. 20,8 sec.

>

>







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